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I have a real quick question about triangular numbers that i want to ask...

5^3= x^2 -y^2, x and y are negative triangular numbers, then y=
answer=-10

8^3= x^2 - y^2 and x, y are positive triangular numbers, then y=

answer=28

64=x^2-y^2 and x, y are positive triangular numbers, then x=

answer=10

this type of problem was common back in the 99 series, i have no idea how to figure this out

thanks

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I have NEVER seen this problem, although it wasn't that hard to figure out.  Whoever discovered this problem, I have to hand it them, they are pretty creative.


Here's the how and why of this problem:


First, what happens when you square a triangular number?  In general a triangular number is n(n+1)/2, so if it is squared it is [n(n+1)/2]^2 which is the formula for finding out the sum of sequences in this form: 1^3 + 2^3 + 3^3 + ...  + n^3.  So if we are given a problem of this sort:


a^3 = x^2 - y^2, where x and y are triangular numbers then that means we want to know:


a^3 = [1^3 + 2^3 +...+ x^3] - [1^3 + 2^3 +...+ y^3]


Basically all the terms will cancel each other out.  So if we chose x=a and y=a-1, we would always get:



  • a^3 = [1^3 + 2^3 +...+ a^3] - [1^3 + 2^3 +...+(a-1)^3]

  • a^3 = 1^3 - 1^3 + 2^3 - 2^3 +...+(a-1)^3 - (a-1)^3 + a^3

  • a^3 = 0 + 0 + 0 +...+ a^3, which is what we want

What does this mean? Basically, whatever cube is to the left of the equation, we know that x = that same number and y=that number minus 1.  But remember these are triangular numbers.  So find the triangular number that corresponds to that number.


I know this sounds REALLY confusing, so let's look at some examples to help us out.


Ex [1]  6^3 = x^2 - y^2, where x,y > 0 and x,y are triangular numbers, find x.



  1. We will focuse on 6, since that is the number being cubed.

  2. x = 6th triangular number and y = 5th triangular number.

  3. x = 6*(6+1)/2 = 3*7 = 21.

  4. The answer is 21.

*Notice that y=5*(5+1)/2 = 15.  So to check we can see if 6^3 = 21^2 - 15^2.  This is 216 = 441 - 225 which is correct.


Ex [2]  64 = x^2 - y^2, where x,y < 0 and x,y are triangular numbers, find y.



  1. We know that 64 is 4^3, so we will focus on 4.

  2. x = 4th triangular number and y = 3rd triangular number.

  3. y = 3*(3+1)/2 = 3*2 = 6.

  4. Since y<0 the answer is -6.

*Notice that x = 4*(4+1)/2 = 10.  Since x<0, x=-10.  To check we can see if 64 = (-10)^2 - (-6)^2.  This is 64 = 100 - 36 which is correct.


Let me know if I need to be more clear.


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