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I know this is primarily a # sense forum, but i know many of you are also going to regionals in mathematics.  I qualified with my team, but i'm gonna have to get a lot better to have any chance of making it to state.  So if yall could help me with some questions, that would be awesome.  Any tips for taking the math test, or any strategies for working problems would be appreciated. 


My first question is-  How do you find the geometric mean and the harmonic mean of a group of numbers?


p.s. (the arithmatic mean is just the average, right?)



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Also, i was wondering if anyone knows of another site like this, but for Mathematics or Calculator Apps., because that would be really cool.

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We learned geometric mean for only 2 numbers, so I may be wrong in saying this. The geometric mean for a set of n numbers is (the product of the numbers)^(1/n).

A brief visit to Wikipedia confirms the above, and gives the equation for harmonic mean. I found it was the formula for combined electric resistance, multiplied by the number of resistors. The harmonic mean expressed in words is, for a set of n numbers, n divided by the sum of the inverses of the numbers.

If that didn't get you anywhere, see Wikipedia's harmonic mean and geometric mean.

Edit: Yes, the arithmatic mean is the average. Sorry, I don't know of any math or calculator sites.

-- Edited by sharpobject at 17:37, 2005-04-06

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Yes the geometric mean is the formula as posted above.


Here are two examples:


For two numbers-


Geometric mean of 4 and 9 is (4 x 9)^0.5 = (36)^0.5 = 6


where ^0.5 is the square root of the product of the 2 numbers


For three numbers-


Geometric mean of 2, 4, and 64 is (2 x 4 x 64)^0.3333 = (512)^0.3333=8


where ^0.3333 is the cube root of the product of the 3 numbers


and so on.



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Harmonic mean is easy once you master the concept...


take the reciprocals of the numbers, add them, divide that number by two, and then take the reciprocal of that.


Basically, the harmonic mean is the reciprocal of the arithmetic mean of the reciprocals.


Hope this helps,


Vinay



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Not completely correct:


To find the Harmonic mean of N numbers, add the recipricols of all of the numbers, divide that number by N, and take the recipricol of that. 


Note, for mathematics test you will usually get G and A, where G is the Geometric mean and A is the arithmetic mean.  The harmonic mean, H, of N numbers is:


G^2/A



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Awesome, thanks guys.  I'll probably have some more questions later on, but that helps a lot.

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Very true!


When I developed this forum, I wanted it to be used as a UIL Math Forum, where we can discuss any form of UIL math related questions.  Don't be afraid to ask about calculator questions, math questions, number sense questions, or even computer science questions.  I have no problem with that.


Keep in mind, my "expertise" (if you can call it that) is basically in number sense, but we are all here to help each other out.  So please, ask away!  It could only get better with the more people we have, so invite others to join in the conversations.


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Penquinz...

did you mean (G^2)/A

or G^(2/A) ?

Thanks a lot for your help

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Sorry for the ambiguity:


(G^2)/A


Full reference can be found here:mathworld.wolfram.com/HarmonicMean.html


 



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One thing, though...


That formula: (G^2)/A only works when you have two numbers. 


I wonder if when you are given three numbers, you could use (G^3)/(A^2)?


I think I'll check that out...


Vinay



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numbers: 7, 8, 12
harmonic mean: 504/59=8.54
(G^3)/(A^2): 896/243=3.69
Not quite, sorry.

Great idea, though. Also, for a set of N numbers, N>2, (G^N)/(A^(N/2)) doesn't give the harmonic mean. I tried a few other things, there seems to be no other way than to actually take the harmonic mean when dealing with more than two numbers.

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I guess this is mainly for calculators, but it could be on the math test too.  I was wondering if someone could help me out with like.... lots of formulas.  I know the basic ones, and i know spheres, but there's a lot i don't know (frustrums, square pyramids, etc.)  If yall could help me out with like.. surface area, volume, diagnal, etc. that would be awesome.  Thanks in advance.


 



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